I'll never know another Rudy Canoza like Rudy Canoza on Tue, 03 Jun 2008
23:59:26 -0700 in alt.gossip.celebrities, soc.support.fat-acceptance,
alt.politics.homosexuality, alt.california, alt.usenet.kooks, they're so
Post by Rudy Canoza Post by ACC Rules Post by Rudy Canoza
"Dennis Kemmerer" wrote...
"Seymour Lurkers" wrote...
"Dennis Kemmerer" wrote...
On 03 Jun 2008, The Master
Post by The Master Post by zero tolerance
(06-02) 19:24 PDT Sacramento - -- A constitutional amendment to
ban same-sex marriage in California was placed on the Nov. 4
ballot Monday, kick-starting an election struggle that will
have repercussions across the nation.
Marrage is NOT a state recognized religious act, it's a secular
act recognized by religion. As such, religious views should
play no part in the constitutionality of gay marrage, period.
So, tell me... WITHOUT using religion, why should gays not get married?
It's very simple.
Societal majority rules, and decides, what constitutes good order
and discipline within the society in which they wish to live. If
the society as a whole or majority part, finds the conduct of a
tiny group of people is objectionable or detrimental to the
majority, they are free
to prohibit it, or limit aspects of it by majority rule. That is
the basis for all social constructs where people live in an
organized governed group.
The vast majority of people find homosexuals objectionable for
any number of reasons, and therefore they can ban or limit the
behavior by majority rule if they so choose. The entire concept
of homosexual marriage is actually quite humerous since most of
them have no capacity or desire to form long term relationships
It all boils down to homosexuals attempting to legally force the
majority to accept them, and socking the healthcare systems for advanced
STD or AIDS treatment. Long term, it's going to backfire, because
this is not the same thing as a racial division, this is purely a
chosen and personal behavioral issue.
Your unsubstantiated assertions and grammatical errors aside, I
see you also failed eighth grade Civics.
Civics has nothing to do with what I think the poster is trying to
say, and you're wrong.
A majority always makes the rules in any civilized society unless
it's a dictatorship.
You forgot about the role of the judiciary.
Not at all. A clear majority will always trump any judiciary.
He was a bit off. It's not the judiciary; it's the Constitution. The
Constitution puts clear limits on what the majority may do. First of
all, there is no provision for majority vote for *anything* at the
U.S. federal level - there is no national office that is determined by
a simple majority of voters, and there is no provision for a national
referendum or initiative. There just is no way for a simple majority
of voters in the U.S. to make their wishes effective.
Second of all, the Constitution clearly elaborates the means of
amendment, and it is not amenable in any way to the wishes of the
majority. A majority of voters cannot decide to amend the
The only way a simple majority could amend the Constitution and, say,
restore slavery or do away with one of the amendments, is for a mob to
overthrow the government and institute a new constitution.
Looks like you're fucked.
At any rate,
At any rate, you're fucked.
The United States Constitution
Article. V. - Amendment
The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it
necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the
Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States,
shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either
Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as part of this
Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the
several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one
or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress;
Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One
thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first
and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that
no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage
in the Senate.
It clearly states that a majority may amend the constitution, you dumb
California hick fuck.
No, it doesn't, you colossal hick gasbag fuck prickcheese.
First of all, douchenozzle, there is *NO* provision by which a majority
of the populace may amend the Constitution. The Constitution may *only*
be amended through act of Congress (by super-majority) ratified by the
states (a super-majority of states), or by a constitutional convention
requested by a super-majority of states, with the resulting amendments
ratified by another super-majority of states.
What the FUCK about "two thirds" and "three fourths" do you not
understand, you fuckwitted hillbilly cunthair? Those are not mere
majorities, shit-4-braincell - they're *super*-majorities. They're also
applicable only to houses of Congress or states, you stupid shitbag.
Don't respond to me again, cocksucker. You're too stupid for this, and
stupid people have no right of response. Just shut the fuck up,
shitbag, and *stay* shut up.
I believe ACC Rules deserves the attention of alt.fucknozzles, as he
seems to be very much on-topic there.<waves to APH>
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Free cl00: Why do you think you've been nominated for so many awards,
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Post by Rudy Canoza
By the by, the "BT" that was mentioned in my exchange with her? That is
a retired bishop that she thinks is lurking in usenet groups giving her
secret messages about what and where to post.
"I did not say he was giving me anonymous messages about where to post,
I said he *may* have given me anonymous messages about where to post."
-- No, Beauty's not a paranoid k00k at all. No way. Doesn't
everyone(tine) think that way, sometimes? Message-ID: