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Why didn't Trump lower any prices on "day one" as he promised?
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unknown
2025-01-28 05:20:40 UTC
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Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?

Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Attila
2025-01-28 15:33:11 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Rudy Canoza
2025-01-28 16:15:17 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Post by Attila
plus allowing LNG exports all are a good start.
The U.S. *already* is the biggest exporter of LNG in the world, you fucking idiot.
Post by Attila
Plus ending the EV mandate of course.
There was no "EV mandate," you fucking liar.
Skeeter
2025-01-28 20:40:12 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
plus allowing LNG exports all are a good start.
The U.S. *already* is the biggest exporter of LNG in the world, you fucking idiot.
Post by Attila
Plus ending the EV mandate of course.
There was no "EV mandate," you fucking liar.
and there wont be.
Alan
2025-01-28 22:32:54 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?

<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>

The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Attila
2025-01-29 06:55:37 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Klaus Schadenfreude,
2025-01-29 17:08:06 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
Attila
2025-01-29 20:34:17 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Alan
2025-01-29 20:58:30 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
He sold it when oil prices were high and replenished it while oil prices
were low:

'The Biden administration has bought back 59 million barrels after the
2022 sale at an average price of less than $76 a barrel, far lower than
the $95 a barrel it sold oil in 2022. That resulted in a profit of about
$3.5 billion, the DOE said.'

<https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/biden-administration-buys-last-oil-emergency-reserve-fund-taps-out-2024-11-08/>
Klaus Schadenfreude
2025-01-29 21:07:18 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
He did not sell of a big part of the strategic petroleum reserve. You lied.
Alan
2025-01-29 21:19:44 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds.  Do you want criminals gone first or lower
prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
     You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened
and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
He did not sell of a big part of the strategic petroleum reserve. You lied.
No, Biden did sell a lot of it...

...he just sold it at a high price, then replenished it at a lower price.

Made $3.5 billion for the US treasury.

:-)
Skeeter
2025-01-29 21:56:51 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of
the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds.  Do you want criminals gone first or lower
prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it
got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day
one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
     You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened
and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
He did not sell of a big part of the strategic petroleum reserve. You lied.
No, Biden did sell a lot of it...
...he just sold it at a high price, then replenished it at a lower price.
Made $3.5 billion for the US treasury.
:-)
That they gave away to other countries.
Attila
2025-01-29 23:56:17 UTC
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:08:06 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
He did not sell of a big part of the strategic petroleum reserve. You lied.
You are an idiot who ignores inconvenient facts.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
In the Name of Jesus
2025-01-30 00:51:46 UTC
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On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
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Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
He did not sell of a big part of the strategic petroleum reserve. You lied.
You are an idiot who ignores inconvenient facts.
Oh dear!

I nearly fell off my chair!




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"Man has no greater idol than his own will."

"Where is God hiding? He isn't."

"If you don't keep all the scriptures, you can't keep any of them."

"You can't prove anything because everything depends on a person's
willingness to believe."

"Atheists are ultimately trying to be pointlessness, meaninglessness,
and purposelessness in their point, meaning, and purpose."

"The last day of creation will be the last day of time. God is always
full of hope."

"The veil of the temple was rent in twain, not so that a book could pass
through it for a sinner to play God."

"A phylactery does not a heart for God make. Not back then, and not today."

"No one in heaven is better (or higher) than what makes it heaven. Such
is the love of God."

"The definition of an atheist: a man full of bluster and bullshit in his
meaninglessness pretending he is the meaning of life."

"Free will is not power; it is the choice that I allow; that choice is
still according to my power," says the Lord.

"What does a fool do? A fool looks for a "nothing" in a "something" in
order to explain the existence of existence."

"Unless you do all because He is who He is, all your religion is in vain."

"Every man is subject to God; He judges every man, and He is reality.
 What a gift in a fallen world!"

"Love MUST be a choice or it is nothing but a law!"

"Why were all men born sinners? So that God could reveal Himself, so
that we would behold the glory of God, and that we should bring forth
the glory of God"

"God does not and will not arbitrate for any man to love Him! If God
isn't everything to you, He is nothing to you where the rubber meets the
road."

"It is the unforgivable sin not to love God with all your heart, soul,
and mind. What do you have that is lasting? It is not so much being
punished; it is what you are left with."

"Love isn't worth anything without first a free will choice for God to
birth it in a man."

"The point of salvation: desperation. Anything less than that is
self-righteousness."

"A sinner is not a believer in God; a sinner is a believer in sin."

"A piece of dirt is not the promised land; that is only a reflection.
The promised land is knowing Me, says the Lord."

"It is all about God or it is all about idolatry."

"The Lord Jesus is coming soon. He has always come soon."

"There is no revolving door of self-worship in a son of God's life!"

"There is no such thing as random!"

"You can't truly love without it being with all your heart."

"No one can see God without their whole heart. Unless you can see God,
you know nothing."

"You can't learn God; God has to reveal Himself to you."

"No sinner is sinless in any way."

"Only God is life; only the Kingdom of God of His "Nature" is life."

"What you believe is just a leaning on your own understanding; faith is
a leaning on the one you have chosen to trust."

"God uses the "letter" to crucify a man and raise him from the dead."

"Not fearing God is sheer stupidity for sinners."

"Self-righteousness is any exclusion of God in your heart, because any
exclusion reveals that you think more about yourself than what you
really are."

"Atheism: "The claim that life received from itself."

"But remember this: always, absolutely always, all the glory is the
Lord's and His alone, and anyone who takes any credit for anything, you
know, instantly, he is not what he pretends to be and is a false prophet."

"That light had to bear (bears all things) the darkness for us, but that
light did not ever become darkness."

"You must reach beyond the bible that tells you about Him, and into your
daily life to find Him in Person. He's there."

"What is wrong with Christendom? False understanding based on compromise."

"It is not in man to love his enemies. And if he tries, he is walking in
a lie and trying to raise himself up to the level of God."

"God has to be quiet now; we have our bible. Well, then, who is going to
speak?"

"It is all about the Lord in His glory and whether a man loves Him with
all for who He is."

"A son of God became the bible when he was born again because the Holy
Spirit took up residence in his heart as Lord."

"The veil of the temple was not rent in twain so that a bible could pass
as God."

"It is dreadfully difficult for religious people to repent of all they
are as they have spent their whole lives reinforcing to themselves that
they are "good sinners."

"If you sin against the Lord, you are using Him."

"The Lord Jesus is a Person, not a book you worship in your own image."

"There was no greater self-righteous being than Satan and that of his
children."

"All continuing sinners seek their own glory!"
Klaus Schadenfreude,
2025-01-30 15:54:16 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:08:06 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Attila
in alt.atheism with message-id
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
No.
He didn't drink it.
He did not sell of a big part of the strategic petroleum reserve. You lied.
You are
I am your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical
superior. That last one isn't hard, because you're in your mid 80s and
absolutely decrepit. You're on your last legs. Soon, I'll be adding you to the
list of "Another Right-Wingnut Who Is Dead." Yep.
Attila
2025-01-30 19:46:50 UTC
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Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
You are
I am your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical
superior. That last one isn't hard, because you're in your mid 80s and
absolutely decrepit. You're on your last legs. Soon, I'll be adding you to the
list of "Another Right-Wingnut Who Is Dead." Yep.
You are either Rudy or someone who as his habits.

Goodbye.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Scout
2025-02-04 15:13:15 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 07:54:16 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
You are
I am your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical
superior. That last one isn't hard, because you're in your mid 80s and
absolutely decrepit. You're on your last legs. Soon, I'll be adding you to the
list of "Another Right-Wingnut Who Is Dead." Yep.
You are either Rudy or someone who as his habits.
Goodbye.
It's Rudy, he can hide behind the names of his superiors.. but his stench,
ignorance and attitudes expose him at every turn.

Must be so pathetic that he has to pretend to be his betters to get anyone
to talk to him. Sad really.
Attila
2025-02-04 21:52:28 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by Attila
On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 07:54:16 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
You are
I am your intellectual, moral, professional, social, literary and physical
superior. That last one isn't hard, because you're in your mid 80s and
absolutely decrepit. You're on your last legs. Soon, I'll be adding you to the
list of "Another Right-Wingnut Who Is Dead." Yep.
You are either Rudy or someone who as his habits.
Goodbye.
It's Rudy, he can hide behind the names of his superiors.. but his stench,
ignorance and attitudes expose him at every turn.
Must be so pathetic that he has to pretend to be his betters to get anyone
to talk to him. Sad really.
Not a problem. He is ignored.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Alan
2025-01-29 20:59:25 UTC
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Post by Attila
in alt.atheism with message-id
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
When prices were high, and then he bought it back again when prices were
low; earning the US treasury $3.5 billion in the process.
Skeeter
2025-01-29 21:37:02 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Attila
in alt.atheism with message-id
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
Yet he sold off a big chunk of the oil reserve.
When prices were high, and then he bought it back again when prices were
low; earning the US treasury $3.5 billion in the process.
That he gave away to other countries.
Skeeter
2025-01-29 14:41:34 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
I will never pardon my son Hunter.
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
But what about the eggs? LOL
Alan
2025-01-29 20:56:13 UTC
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Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
I will never pardon my son Hunter.
He changed his mind.
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
But what about the eggs? LOL
Indeed.
Skeeter
2025-01-29 21:36:31 UTC
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Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
says...
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the United
States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
Bullshit. He said he was going to reduce retail prices on "day one." He lied.
So did Joe.
What was the lie?
I will never pardon my son Hunter.
He changed his mind.
So did Trump then.
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Alan
Post by Skeeter
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling
Oil production reached record highs during Biden's presidency.
Nope.
Yup. You get that this stuff is easily checked, right?
<https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/crude-oil-production>
The highest US oil production during Trump's first administration was in
November and December of 2019, and the production under Biden was higher
for all of 2024 except for January.
But what about the eggs? LOL
Indeed.
Idiots.
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-28 18:48:44 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?

Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.

https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-remain-
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Attila
2025-01-29 06:57:14 UTC
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On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-remain-
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
This is not 2017.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-29 13:51:16 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-
remain-
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
This is not 2017.
Who is the government "mandating"
to buy anyhing?
Attila
2025-01-29 20:35:30 UTC
Reply
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:51:16 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some
prices
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower
prices?
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-
remain-
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
This is not 2017.
Who is the government "mandating"
to buy anyhing?
The government policies can result in only one option.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Klaus Schadenfreude
2025-01-29 21:07:51 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:51:16 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some
prices
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower
prices?
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-
remain-
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
This is not 2017.
Who is the government "mandating"
to buy anyhing?
The government policies can result in only one option.
Bullshit.
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-30 02:36:46 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:51:16 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some
prices
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower
prices?
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-
remain-
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
This is not 2017.
Who is the government "mandating"
to buy anyhing?
The government policies can result in only one option.
Just show us this federal "EV mandate"
you mentioned.
Klaus Schadenfreude,
2025-01-29 17:07:44 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-remain-
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
Attila
2025-01-29 20:36:53 UTC
Reply
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-remain-
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.

It appears an EO was issued ending something that did not
exist.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Klaus Schadenfreude
2025-01-29 21:08:21 UTC
Reply
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-remain-
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Attila
2025-01-30 00:01:39 UTC
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-remain-
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Call it whatever you like.

WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump
on Monday took aim at electric vehicles, revoking a 2021
executive order signed by his predecessor Joe Biden that
sought to ensure half of all new vehicles sold in the United
States by 2030 were electric.
Biden's 50% target, which was not legally binding, had won
the support of U.S. and foreign automakers.
Trump said in an executive order he was halting distribution
of unspent government funds for vehicle charging stations
from a $5 billion fund, called for ending a waiver for
states to adopt zero emission vehicle rules by 2035 and said
his administration would consider ending EV tax credits.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-30 02:39:08 UTC
Reply
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by
American consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In
fact, some prices have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Tru
mp
...which the article sums-up nicely right in the first
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred
to as Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th
president of the United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-
remain- in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Call it whatever you like.
WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump
on Monday took aim at electric vehicles, revoking a 2021
executive order signed by his predecessor Joe Biden that
sought to ensure half of all new vehicles sold in the United
States by 2030 were electric.
Biden's 50% target, which was not legally binding,
"....not legally binding....."



had won
Post by Attila
the support of U.S. and foreign automakers.
Trump said in an executive order he was halting distribution
of unspent government funds for vehicle charging stations
from a $5 billion fund, called for ending a waiver for
states to adopt zero emission vehicle rules by 2035 and said
his administration would consider ending EV tax credits.
Attila
2025-01-30 10:01:26 UTC
Reply
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 02:39:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by
American consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In
fact, some prices have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Tru
mp
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred
to as Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th
president of the United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-
remain- in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Call it whatever you like.
WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump
on Monday took aim at electric vehicles, revoking a 2021
executive order signed by his predecessor Joe Biden that
sought to ensure half of all new vehicles sold in the United
States by 2030 were electric.
Biden's 50% target, which was not legally binding,
"....not legally binding....."
had won
Post by Attila
the support of U.S. and foreign automakers.
Trump said in an executive order he was halting distribution
of unspent government funds for vehicle charging stations
from a $5 billion fund, called for ending a waiver for
states to adopt zero emission vehicle rules by 2035 and said
his administration would consider ending EV tax credits.
We both know the last administration did all it could to
discourage and obstruct any gas and oil development through
policies and rebates among other things including government
financed charging stations.. Government money was allocated
to encourage EV production and generate electricity in any
way other than coal, oil, or natural gas.

That has ended and the Green Raw Deal is dead.
--
List of anti-American organizations:

Al-Qaeda
HAMAS
Hezbollah
ISIS
Communist Party
Democratic Party
Antifa

Build a wall.
Deport them all.

Every illegal is a criminal.

All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.

DEI DEATH CERTIFICATE

Date - Jan 20, 2025
Time - 12:00 Noon

"Joe who?"
pothead
2025-01-30 13:02:44 UTC
Reply
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Post by Attila
On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 02:39:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by
American consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In
fact, some prices have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Tru
mp
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred
to as Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th
president of the United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-
remain- in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Call it whatever you like.
WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump
on Monday took aim at electric vehicles, revoking a 2021
executive order signed by his predecessor Joe Biden that
sought to ensure half of all new vehicles sold in the United
States by 2030 were electric.
Biden's 50% target, which was not legally binding,
"....not legally binding....."
had won
Post by Attila
the support of U.S. and foreign automakers.
Trump said in an executive order he was halting distribution
of unspent government funds for vehicle charging stations
from a $5 billion fund, called for ending a waiver for
states to adopt zero emission vehicle rules by 2035 and said
his administration would consider ending EV tax credits.
We both know the last administration did all it could to
discourage and obstruct any gas and oil development through
policies and rebates among other things including government
financed charging stations.. Government money was allocated
to encourage EV production and generate electricity in any
way other than coal, oil, or natural gas.
The libbys know it but they will never admit what a huge
waste of money it turned out to be.
Post by Attila
That has ended and the Green Raw Deal is dead.
Thank goodness because it was destroying the country.
--
pothead

Why did Joe Biden pardon his family?
Read below to learn the reason.
The Biden Crime Family Timeline here:
https://oversight.house.gov/the-bidens-influence-peddling-timeline/
Siri Cruise
2025-01-30 13:11:25 UTC
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Post by pothead
The libbys know it but they will never admit what a huge
waste of money it turned out to be.
Post by Attila
That has ended and the Green Raw Deal is dead.
Thank goodness because it was destroying the country.
https://www.energy.ca.gov/

<https://www.energy.ca.gov/news/2024-12/californians-are-paying-less-fill-pump-due-part-states-gas-price-gouging-and>

SACRAMENTO – Californians are paying less to fill up at the pump,
with the annual average price for gasoline at a 3-year low, due in
part to the state’s efforts to protect consumers and improve
transparency of the petroleum industry.

State officials can better understand supply, demand, and price
trends in the petroleum market because of transparency and
accountability tools that can be used thanks to new laws signed by
Governor Gavin Newsom in recent years.

While data on total gasoline sales and prices through the end of
the year is still being collected and analyzed, Jeremy Smith,
deputy director of the California Energy Commission’s Energy
Assessments Division, provided an overview about what is being
done to implement Senate Bill X1-2 and what is ahead for 2025 at
the December 11 business meeting.
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Mitchell Holman
2025-01-30 14:06:51 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 02:39:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by
American consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In
fact, some prices have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_
Tru mp
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes
referred to as Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and
47th president of the United States, have frequently
changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it
got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others
listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credi
ts- remain- in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Call it whatever you like.
WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump
on Monday took aim at electric vehicles, revoking a 2021
executive order signed by his predecessor Joe Biden that
sought to ensure half of all new vehicles sold in the United
States by 2030 were electric.
Biden's 50% target, which was not legally binding,
"....not legally binding....."
had won
Post by Attila
the support of U.S. and foreign automakers.
Trump said in an executive order he was halting distribution
of unspent government funds for vehicle charging stations
from a $5 billion fund, called for ending a waiver for
states to adopt zero emission vehicle rules by 2035 and said
his administration would consider ending EV tax credits.
We both know the last administration did all it could to
discourage and obstruct any gas and oil development through
policies and rebates among other things including government
financed charging stations.. Government money was allocated
to encourage EV production and generate electricity in any
way other than coal, oil, or natural gas.
The libbys know it but they will never admit what a huge
waste of money it turned out to be.
Renewables are the wave of the future,
get used to it. Coal production peaked in
2011 and has been declining ever since,
regardless of what party controls Washington.
Coal is dangerous to mine, expensive to
transport, and costly to burn cleanly. No
one wants it anymore.



US Cities Bought More Renewables Than Ever in 2020.
March 31, 2021
https://rmi.org/us-cities-bought-more-renewables-than-ever-in-2020-heres-
how/


And who was president in 2020......?
Mitchell Holman
2025-01-30 13:55:49 UTC
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On Thu, 30 Jan 2025 02:39:08 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by
American consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In
fact, some prices have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Tru
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by unknown
mp
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred
to as Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th
president of the United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-
credits-
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
Post by Mitchell Holman
remain- in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Call it whatever you like.
WASHINGTON, Jan 20 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump
on Monday took aim at electric vehicles, revoking a 2021
executive order signed by his predecessor Joe Biden that
sought to ensure half of all new vehicles sold in the United
States by 2030 were electric.
Biden's 50% target, which was not legally binding,
"....not legally binding....."
had won
Post by Attila
the support of U.S. and foreign automakers.
Trump said in an executive order he was halting distribution
of unspent government funds for vehicle charging stations
from a $5 billion fund, called for ending a waiver for
states to adopt zero emission vehicle rules by 2035 and said
his administration would consider ending EV tax credits.
We both know the last administration did all it could to
discourage and obstruct any gas and oil development through
policies and rebates among other things including government
financed charging stations.. Government money was allocated
to encourage EV production and generate electricity in any
way other than coal, oil, or natural gas.
Heaven forbid utilities free themselves
from the prices set by Big Oil and Big Coal,
despite the political forces against it.

Why do you think the leading state for
wind energy production is......Texas?

https://www.firetrace.com/fire-protection-blog/top-10-us-states-for-wind-
turbine-installations
Klaus Schadenfreude,
2025-01-30 15:55:35 UTC
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Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 13:08:21 -0800, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Attila
On Wed, 29 Jan 2025 09:07:44 -0800, "Klaus Schadenfreude,"
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude,
Post by Attila
On Tue, 28 Jan 2025 18:48:44 +0000, Mitchell Holman
Post by Mitchell Holman
Post by Attila
On Mon, 27 Jan 2025 21:20:40 -0800, "Brandon Blackwell
Post by unknown
Trump said he was going to lower retail prices paid by American
consumers on "day one." He hasn't lowered any. In fact, some prices
have risen spectacularly.
Why did Trump lie? Why do Trumpswabs support a liar?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump
"The political positions of Donald Trump (sometimes referred to as
Trumpism[1][2][3]), the 45th president and 47th president of the
United States, have frequently changed."
Make up your minds. Do you want criminals gone first or lower prices?
Trump warned everyone that pricing would get worse before it got better.
You two didn't vote for him, but plenty of others listened and did.
Dumping the Green Raw Deal and approving new drilling plus
allowing LNG exports all are a good start. Plus ending the
EV mandate of course.
What EV mandate?
Trump's own 2017 Tax bill
creates a tax credit for EV's.
https://www.autofinancenews.net/archives/electric-vehicle-credits-remain-
in-2017-tax-reform-bill/
Strange. Trump issued an EO ending just such a mandate.
There *was* never any "EV mandate." Stop lying.
That is the only way they could sell them.
Bullshit. There was no "mandate"
Call it whatever you like.
I call it "no mandate." A mandate is where those subject to it have no choice.
Everyone still has a choice as to what kind of car to buy.

There never was an "EV mandate." That's a right-wingnut, i.e. Nazi, lie. You lied.
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